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IcyAllEyeCan
4/29/2012 11:15:26 PM


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Sizing of entries

I try to always use large, high resolution images as sources. Usually my Photoshop files are very large, so I resize to the maximum allowed here via "Size for Web" ... but what shows up varies in physical size, I cannot seem to choose that ... I've tried lowering the dpi, cropping a bit to make them thinner to see if that helps ... someone who has figured it out, PLEASE advise me. It's defeating to work on something, have it turn out well, then have it be so small it loses points. PLUS, no one can SEE THE WORK!

Thanks, in advance. (And yes, I have read the tutorials, they do not seem to have the answer.)
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Wiz
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4/30/2012 2:15:34 AM


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On 4/29/2012 11:15:26 PM, IcyAllEyeCan said:
I try to always use large, high resolution images as sources. Usually my Photoshop files are very large, so I resize to the maximum allowed here via "Size for Web" ... but what shows up varies in physical size, I cannot seem to choose that ... I've tried lowering the dpi, cropping a bit to make them thinner to see if that helps ... someone who has figured it out, PLEASE advise me. It's defeating to work on something, have it turn out well, then have it be so small it loses points. PLUS, no one can SEE THE WORK!

Thanks, in advance. (And yes, I have read the tutorials, they do not seem to have the answer.)



Best way is to create a New empty Photoshop File to this size:-

[1500 X 2000 Pixels. Resolution 72.009 pixel/inch. RGB 8 bit]

That's the max working size dealt with. Now do your creative chop, make it fit within that size, hit 'Save For Web' name it and upload it. Easy eh!

by the way: You can go smaller than the above size I gave you, but details do get lost on small entries, so try and avoid them.

Hope this helps

Wiz
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AZRainman
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4/30/2012 2:48:36 AM


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Details also get lost, colors washout and artifacts are more abundant when jpeg compression level is below 50 (lower number = higher compression in Photoshop).

Too large of an image with ultra high compression is also not good.


350kb Image size in Photoshop CS5
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IcyAllEyeCan
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4/30/2012 5:49:53 AM


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On 4/30/2012 2:15:34 AM, Wiz said:

On 4/29/2012 11:15:26 PM, IcyAllEyeCan said:
I try to always use large, high resolution images as sources. Usually my Photoshop files are very large, so I resize to the maximum allowed here via "Size for Web" ... but what shows up varies in physical size, I cannot seem to choose that ... I've tried lowering the dpi, cropping a bit to make them thinner to see if that helps ... someone who has figured it out, PLEASE advise me. It's defeating to work on something, have it turn out well, then have it be so small it loses points. PLUS, no one can SEE THE WORK!

Thanks, in advance. (And yes, I have read the tutorials, they do not seem to have the answer.)



Best way is to create a New empty Photoshop File to this size:-

[1500 X 2000 Pixels. Resolution 72.009 pixel/inch. RGB 8 bit]

That's the max working size dealt with. Now do your creative chop, make it fit within that size, hit 'Save For Web' name it and upload it. Easy eh!

by the way: You can go smaller than the above size I gave you, but details do get lost on small entries, so try and avoid them.

Hope this helps

Wiz



Helps a lot! I appreciate the time you took to answer. I'll give this a try next chop! THANKS!!
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IcyAllEyeCan
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4/30/2012 5:52:19 AM


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On 4/30/2012 2:48:36 AM, AZRainman said:
Details also get lost, colors washout and artifacts are more abundant when jpeg compression level is below 50 (lower number = higher compression in Photoshop).

Too large of an image with ultra high compression is also not good.


350kb Image size in Photoshop CS5



AZ, I just won a copy of CS6, but have to wait for the release to get it -- meanwhile, I'm stuck down on lowly CS2 (or CS3, depending on which machine I use.) -- But will look at that tutorial again when I'm upgraded. Thanks!
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news1st
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4/30/2012 7:16:43 AM
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I personally prefer Images 'not save for the web', using standard jpeg compressor set at of a quality of no lower than 7, and preferably about 10.

This limits the overall Image size to somewhere around 750x1000 800x1100 or somewhere there near about.

I Find the much Larger Images in the 1200x1600px range and above require to much compression to maintain Image Integrity at 72 Dpi.
while staying within the confines of 350k.

Take Care,

Tracy Mapes
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AZRainman
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4/30/2012 7:27:48 AM


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Quality vs Size

The original "size matters" tutorial is also hyperlinked in the above link and is for older PS versions.
http://www.freakingnews.com/tutorial.asp?sid=19

Compression levels above 50 are usually not possible for images above 1000 x 1500px and thus quality will be severely reduced. Detailed, colorful images under 1000 x 1500px usually won't have to be compressed below a 50 level to meet the 350kb size limit. In other words, if you have to use 50 or less compression setting, it's too big.

Seeing The Difference With JPEG Compression

Ideal minimum jpeg compression is usually between 67-72 without noticeable quality loss.

[Edited by User on 4/30/2012 7:32:23 AM]
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IcyAllEyeCan
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4/30/2012 7:38:48 PM


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I don't understand "compression levels below 50" -- do you mean a dpi of less than 50? My largest jpg possible is 12.
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news1st
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4/30/2012 8:12:56 PM
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No Icy! ...

When you used Save for the Web, they use a different Compression Scale.

I Believe 50 would Equal 50% Compress, and 60 would technically be 40% Compression, 70 would 30% Compression and So On.

When You use Save as: Jpeg - The Scale is from 1 at the Low End to 12 at the High End. If You Use 'Save as' ... I would not recommend Saving at a Lower Setting than 7.

AZRainman Like Using the 'Save for the Web' because he can keep his Image much Closer to the Target Mark of 350k.

I Believe.

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Wiz
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5/1/2012 1:47:41 AM


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On 4/29/2012 11:15:26 PM, IcyAllEyeCan said:
"It gets complicated around here sometimes with so many chefs in the kitchen.



If you prefer large formats with high compression that's fine The difference is marginal most the time.

I was pointing out there's a optimal area for size, compression and quality. Plus viewer's screen sizes are usually not over 27" (2560 x 1440 pixels) and the average viewer's size being 1366768 pixels. Finally, the larger the format the more work you will do and the harder it will be to find the higher resolution sources.


Note: Red colors seem to be the most affected by high compression at FN, due to the site's recoding/resizing algorithm. The red areas can look more blurry, washed out, and pixelated than other parts of the image. I've seen this especially in wide red fonts. The lower the compression and the less likely you will come across this problem.

[Edited by Moderator on 5/1/2012 3:41:00 AM]
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AZRainman
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5/1/2012 2:57:21 AM


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On 4/30/2012 8:12:56 PM, news1st said:
AZRainman Like Using the 'Save for the Web' because he can keep his Image much Closer to the Target Mark of 350k.



Thanks for explaining it in more detail, Tracy..looks good.

Use "Save for Web & Devices", which is NOT "Save As".

save for web
Save for web can be set to include no exif data (metadata set to none). Exif data increases file size and is not needed.

[Edited by User on 5/1/2012 3:09:13 AM]
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