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vicspa
4/29/2012 9:21:25 AM


Status: Commander in Chief
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Just joined this site, so forgive me if this has been talked about before. I was a member of similar sites before, and with an entry we had to submit a step by step guide as to how the photoshopped image was done, this way we were able to better judge the amount of talent and photoshop knowledge it took to do an entry.
As it stands I'm having a hard time voting since I cannot tell if it's great photoshopping or just cut-and-paste job from someone else's images.
Hope I'm making sense, thanks
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news1st
Independents
4/29/2012 10:01:55 AM
Status: Commander in Chief
Well? ...As a Member of the Cut and Paste Crowd!

I Am Offended that You Think I Am a No Talent Hack! Oh! ...Wait!

I Am.

Anyway ...It's a Common Practice if You Feel the Need to tout Your Over the Top Skillage - to Post a File with All of Your Resource Files in a Reduce format to save space and Show Us Exactly How Really Good You Are!

The Most Important Thing About this Site, is To Enjoy Yourself!

I know the 3 to 5 Dollar Prizes are a Big Draw, But Try Not to Always Think About Grabbing the Brass Ring Right in front of All Us Pathetic Cut and Pasters just So You Can Fly Us around the World and Tell Us just How Really Damned Good You Are!

I'd like to Post Something with a Hundred and Fifty Layers or So - to Honor this Moment, But? ...I Only have enough Memory to do about 10 Re-Do's in My History Palette. And if I have to Paste anymore than a Head or an Ankle or Something in a Chop? ...I just Don't Have Those Kinda Skillz.

And ...That's Why I Come Here!

To Watch Showboats like You Suck Up All the Big Cash Prizes.

I Find Your Work Awe Inspiring and Beautiful! You Are a Man ...Or? ...A Woman? And You've Done So Much For Our Community that it Makes Me Want to Buy a Wacom Tablet just So I Can Break it in Half Right in Front of You.

I Hope this Little Conversation has Helped You through these All too Obvious Tough Moments You have been Going Thru. You Know?

The Cheap Chinese Food on the Weekends, and Having to Stomach the Lackadaisical Sub-Human Photoshop Losers like Me.

So? ...Take Care! And Have a Great Time! And Enjoy Your Time Here on the Island of Misfit Hacks.

-Tracy Mapes


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vicspa
Independents
4/29/2012 12:37:35 PM


Status: Commander in Chief





WOWWWWWWW!!!! What a warm welcome to this site, never thought my question would invoke such anger from anyone.
Where do I say I'm such a great photoshopper and that you are not??? you call yourself "subhuman", WHY??? you have anger issues because you must feel inferior at Photoshop, but we all gotta start somewhere, I was a novice once also, but got to learn alot in time. Cut-and-paste is as simple as it can be, but to do it well you still have to have some experience behind it, and it takes some time and practice.
All in all I was trying to say that a simple cut-and-paste should not get better votes because someone does not recognize a better photoshopped entry regardless of prizes, I do this to learn more of photoshop, and not the $ prizes, and a step guide would be helpful.
Your anger is misplaced, since I did not mean to insult anyone, and an insult can only be taken not given, as you have proven.
Since I have seemed to have insulted you, I do apologize for that.
Keep learning and evolving Tracy.

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vipez
Democrats
4/29/2012 12:54:51 PM
Status: Director of National Drug Control Policy
Hey vicspa im just gona put in my 2 cents ..... i usually prefer to chop stoned....so anything that has to do with listing all the steps one by one After the fact, ahhhh not me ! Yes , i too was part of a site that had that opion of adding the steps , but the second i saw that , im like Freak That ! out Im ! lol
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IcyAllEyeCan
Independents
4/29/2012 1:47:07 PM


Status: Commander in Chief
Vispa, why don't you do a chop and contribute and then we can have an informed discussion -- and put in author's comments such as you describe. I've seen author's notes like that and I've seen then met with generosity here.

Also, I read "joking" in News1st's post above, not anger ... perhaps a middle of the road response to someone who has joined, but not participated, but who wants us all to change how we've been doing things?

Please do an entry and let us know who you are in a way that matters here: with a chop.
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~Icyhttp://phorho.blogspot.com

AZRainman
Independents
4/29/2012 1:48:19 PM


Status: Commander in Chief
Quick cut and paste problems:

- Incorrect shading or highlighting.
- Light source and reflections come from odd directions.
- Colors don't match and saturation level varies.
- Masking lines or halos are visible.
- Edges are too jagged or fuzzy.
- Images too sharp or fuzzy compared to other parts.
- Pasted parts look flat or like cardboard cutouts.


Familiarity with image manipulation and sources can tell you what has been altered. You can also use http://www.tineye.com/

[Edited by User on 4/29/2012 1:49:42 PM]
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"Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity." -George Carlin

vicspa
Independents
4/29/2012 2:04:52 PM


Status: Commander in Chief
Thanks for that Rainman, I agree. even cut and paste requires photoshop knowledge.
IcyAllEyeCan, I do have an entry in the DaVinci contest, and the freak show contest. And I'm still navigating this somewhat confusing site.
vipez, the other site was so obsessed with step-by-steps that they were giving credits for the best ones, and they took as long as the entry sometimes, however it's a learning process to see how a good chop was done. I cannot chop stoned, but then again I never tried to. Hmmmmm.



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vicspa
Independents
4/29/2012 2:22:57 PM


Status: Commander in Chief
vipez, one last note on step-by-steps, I saw your respects for Dali entry, and I would have loved to know how you accomplished it, where you got the pix, and how you put it all together, etc. etc.
Take for instance the intergalactic princess in the Dali contest, did the author of that entry create the face or got it on the internet??? that would make a big difference in my vote.
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vicspa
Independents
4/29/2012 3:23:26 PM


Status: Commander in Chief
News1st, this is from the site's FAQ's.

What is the general atmosphere here like?
We're a friendly, yet competitive bunch. For new people this is an atmosphere of learning. You will find some incredible talent here and would be surprised how quickly they will offer tips.

The learning and fun come first.

The competition and winning come second. As such we strongly frown on negative comments on other peoples' entries.
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news1st
Independents
4/29/2012 5:33:12 PM
Status: Commander in Chief
Quit Your Crying and Live a Little!

It was All in Humor!
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Wiz
Independents
4/29/2012 5:54:18 PM


Status: Commander in Chief

On 4/29/2012 9:21:25 AM, vicspa said:
Just joined this site, so forgive me if this has been talked about before. I was a member of similar sites before, and with an entry we had to submit a step by step guide as to how the photoshopped image was done, this way we were able to better judge the amount of talent and photoshop knowledge it took to do an entry.
As it stands I'm having a hard time voting since I cannot tell if it's great photoshopping or just cut-and-paste job from someone else's images.
Hope I'm making sense, thanks



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vicspa
Independents
4/29/2012 6:08:40 PM


Status: Commander in Chief

On 4/29/2012 5:33:12 PM, news1st said:
Quit Your Crying and Live a Little!

It was All in Humor!



You call that rant humorous?????, Me cry??? too old to do that, I'd rather laugh! we must have different opinions on what's funny, but let's end it here,Ok, HAHAHA no one likes a good joke better than me, see you in the funny papers.
let's lighten up and have fun. This is one FUNNY website.
Let's cut and paste together.

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IcyAllEyeCan
Independents
4/29/2012 6:15:53 PM


Status: Commander in Chief
Vicspa, as I said, I thought News1st was trying to be funny. My experience of News1st is all good -- certainly someone who plays by the rules. It's hard to read emotion or anger via comments, yes? I know I tend to insert many "LOL"s, so I'm very clearly not attacking, LOL ([-- see?)

I did not see your entries in the contests yet, when I clicked on your name nothing came up -- will check them out!

Welcome and enjoy.
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~Icyhttp://phorho.blogspot.com

AZRainman
Independents
4/29/2012 6:20:37 PM


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"Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity." -George Carlin

vicspa
Independents
4/29/2012 6:32:40 PM


Status: Commander in Chief
Thanks Icy and Rainman
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Wiz
Independents
4/29/2012 6:52:12 PM


Status: Commander in Chief

On 4/29/2012 9:21:25 AM, vicspa said:
Just joined this site, so forgive me if this has been talked about before. I was a member of similar sites before, and with an entry we had to submit a step by step guide as to how the photoshopped image was done, this way we were able to better judge the amount of talent and photoshop knowledge it took to do an entry.
As it stands I'm having a hard time voting since I cannot tell if it's great photoshopping or just cut-and-paste job from someone else's images.
Hope I'm making sense, thanks



Welcome vicspa, like you I used to chop on those 'orrible sites that wanted a step by step, blow by blow as to how you made your final entry... which I found so bloody boring! Apart from that my monitor got so crowded with all those odd bits and pieces!!! You see, I'm such a messy chopper that I lose track of where most of my stuff is, was or went most of the time.

Like AZRainman says, even our nubile young things can spot a cut and stick job a mile away!

Here at FN, most of our choppers moved here from those control freak sites exactly because of all that detailed info crud that made you feel like you're filling in a Damn Tax Audit!!!

Oh! by the way; Your Da Vinci entry is a bad copy of the same idea done a few years ago, go Google, I'm sure you can find it. See I do know how it's sometimes VERY difficult to be original.

But one thing's for sure, All FN Choppers can spot those lazy Photoshop executions that AZ' talked about, and they mark accordingly.

So lurk around awhile, until you find out how things work around here... and then do a updated post if you like, to let us all know how you feel after having posted a few entries (and how fairly they were rated) That's the acid test of any site.

Have Fun & Chop Something, even if it's the cat!

Wiz

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IcyAllEyeCan
Independents
4/29/2012 9:32:49 PM


Status: Commander in Chief
Don't be mean to the kitty!
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Mundo
Independents
4/29/2012 9:54:23 PM


Status: Commander in Chief
Hi..and welcome, hey just had to add that I also tried that site some time ago...and I even submitted a couple of entries..and that to me was BS...now I'm use to googling most of my sources, cause I can get them, if you probably notice most if not all of the images in the internet have a note that says "Images may be subject to copyright" that alone disqualifies you from submitting that image, the only way you can use an image is by paying the sites like Getty or some other sites that charge for their images, that too is BS, I ain't going to pay no hundred dollars for an image just to use once, and only for a contest, I know there are some free one's but unfortunelty they only offer pictures that you don't need..here also I have been DQed some for copyrights, but hey, those are the rules...anyways welcome, but above all have fun, most of the choppers are friendly and will be glad to help if you need any, I chop also for the fun, and not to win anything, cause we do have some very good choppers, I don't consider myself one of those good one's...but I try...
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AzureSky
Independents
5/1/2012 3:36:11 AM


Status: Commander in Chief

On 4/29/2012 6:32:40 PM, vicspa said:
Thanks Icy and Rainman



Welcome vicspa people on here come from all over the world and their humour or lack of it is not always understood.

Tracy was just being himself, he is OK. Quite a kind and helpful fellow but don't tell him I said so.

There are some absolutely amazing choppers here, the leader of the pack is AZRainman. He is always willing to help.

There isn't much chance for me of winning anything these days, so I only enter the contests that really appeal to me.

Above all else, this site is about having fun, having a laugh and learning new techniques. We are lucky to have so many experts.

I have learned so much here and am still learning. Photoshop is evolving so fast it is hard to keep up.

Stay with us and you will find out just how wonderful this community really is.


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vicspa
Independents
5/1/2012 10:35:39 AM


Status: Commander in Chief



Thanks so much Azure Sky for giving me some hope, I'm all about learning and having photoshop fun.



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Malcolmxy
Independents
5/1/2012 4:11:06 PM


Status: Attorney General

On 4/29/2012 6:20:37 PM, AZRainman said:



this is the best chop I've ever seen on this site. If not for the text, this would be my avatar right now.

oh yeah...I'm also pretty sure Tracey was kidding. Look around at someone's other posts before making assumptions about them OP-person (whose moniker I can't remember at the moment)

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