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AzureSky
4/4/2013 6:06:25 PM


Status: Commander in Chief
Toothless?

I see not all of the entries in the Toothless contest are actually toothless. as required in the contest directions below.
What is the point of having directions, only to allow entries that clearly do not follow the directions?

"Today you have a simple dental work to do - remove ALL the teeth of your favorite (or not so favorite) celebrity - photoshop completely toothless celebrities. Here are some quick examples. Please make sure that no single tooth remains in those celebrity mouths - make a clean job of removing 'em all!"
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Kellie
Independents
4/4/2013 7:22:50 PM
Status: Commander in Chief
Out of 60 entries Azure, only 4 have not followed directions completely. Those users have been mailed to rectify.

As you well know over the years this happens in many contests, some people do not read the directions entirely, have an idea and go with it only to realize later.

One can vote these entries lower if it bothers them that much.

This topic really does not need a thread about it, otherwise you would have to start one near every contest...be aware that those people who admin the site have a clue.

TY
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AzureSky
Independents
4/5/2013 3:27:42 AM


Status: Commander in Chief

On 4/4/2013 7:22:50 PM, Kellie said:
Out of 60 entries Azure, only 4 have not followed directions completely. Those users have been mailed to rectify.

As you well know over the years this happens in many contests, some people do not read the directions entirely, have an idea and go with it only to realize later.

One can vote these entries lower if it bothers them that much.

This topic really does not need a thread about it, otherwise you would have to start one near every contest...be aware that those people who admin the site have a clue.

TY



I understand your point Kellie, the thing is, as you say, drifting away from the contest directions is happening so much nowadays.
I was including the ones with parts of teeth like spiky ones, not just the ones with actual teeth.
Thank you for giving this matter your attention.

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Kellie
Independents
4/5/2013 4:43:09 AM
Status: Commander in Chief
I think the whole "spiky teeth" deal is meant to interpret gums without teeth.

...and if you find something that you do not think belongs in a contest feel free to flag it Az

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ChipMcFarlane
Independents
4/5/2013 6:30:54 AM


Status: Commander in Chief
People who have had recent extractions, will have gum tissue that is uneven, and somewhat matching the shape of the teeth that were removed. So the gums would look lumpy.

People who are toothless do not have normal jaw structure. They also lose jawbone, and the distance between the nose and chin shrinks dramatically.

Unfortunately accuracy is being judged as not following directions.
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AzureSky
Independents
4/5/2013 5:21:22 PM


Status: Commander in Chief

On 4/5/2013 6:30:54 AM, ChipMcFarlane said:
People who have had recent extractions, will have gum tissue that is uneven, and somewhat matching the shape of the teeth that were removed. So the gums would look lumpy.

People who are toothless do not have normal jaw structure. They also lose jawbone, and the distance between the nose and chin shrinks dramatically.

Unfortunately accuracy is being judged as not following directions.



You missed the entries with actual teeth in Chips. I have nursed many elderly people, not all of the portrayals were accurate. Just blacking out a mouth is not enough. Maybe Paul who is a dentist will have something to say on the subject. Purely out of interest. I am always happy to learn.

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ChipMcFarlane
Independents
4/5/2013 5:51:28 PM


Status: Commander in Chief
I agree with your frustration about others not following contest rules. This challenge is more ambiguous, as a pursuit for reality,will produce ugly faces. This in turn leads to lower scores. The goal for some will be realism,while other will be to produce an appealing image in order to win.
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AzureSky
Independents
4/5/2013 8:29:18 PM


Status: Commander in Chief

On 4/5/2013 5:51:28 PM, ChipMcFarlane said:
I agree with your frustration about others not following contest rules. This challenge is more ambiguous, as a pursuit for reality,will produce ugly faces. This in turn leads to lower scores. The goal for some will be realism,while other will be to produce an appealing image in order to win.



I asked a friend who is a dentist and he confirmed what you said about gums with newly extracted teeth so I stand corrected. I did, however see some that looked sharp edged and thin which no gums are.

The main reason I posted was that it was yet another clear example of people not following the contest directions. Kellie kindly dealt with ones that had actual teeth left in the image.

I understand your point about some people preferring to exaggerate parts of an image for extra impact. Nothing wrong with that. I do like to see some effort put into the techniques.


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MiniS
Democrats
4/6/2013 2:11:38 AM


Status: Hall Monitor

On 4/4/2013 7:22:50 PM, Kellie said:
...One can vote these entries lower if it bothers them that much...



I don't think that this is the answer; it could penalise the voter/s rather than the votee. Surely, if specific instructions are given and highlighted, these should be enforced.

I understand that, in this instance, they were, but that is not always the case.
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AzureSky
Independents
4/6/2013 9:34:19 AM


Status: Commander in Chief

On 4/6/2013 2:11:38 AM, MiniS said:

On 4/4/2013 7:22:50 PM, Kellie said:
...One can vote these entries lower if it bothers them that much...



I don't think that this is the answer; it could penalise the voter/s rather than the votee. Surely, if specific instructions are given and highlighted, these should be enforced.

I understand that, in this instance, they were, but that is not always the case.



If, as Kellie says, you point things out by flagging them action does get taken. I have done it on rare occasions, but not lately.

In this case, I decided to speak up here, to draw attention to the issue in general, of choppers not going by the guidelines.

This contest had very specific guidelines.

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