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AzureSky
4/3/2012 4:51:37 AM


Status: Commander in Chief
Psycho kid gets only 15 years

14 year old kills mother

With our stupid lenient law system he could be out in 10 years.
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Malcolmxy
Independents
4/7/2012 4:22:16 PM


Status: Attorney General
He's 14 years old, what'dya want? Lock him away for life? Execution? At least he kept it in the family. (on many levels, his want and ability to kill was her fault, after all...after reading the link you posted, I'm fully convinced mommy touched little Danny in places where mommies shouldn't be touching in that way. Psychopaths aren't born, they're bred...let's just hope your correction system can breed what his mommy put in him, out of him...

I think if he's fixed in a year, they should let him out in a year. He's a kid...kids aren't bad...something makes them that way, and it's almost always a family member.)
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AzureSky
Independents
4/7/2012 6:41:36 PM


Status: Commander in Chief

On 4/7/2012 4:22:16 PM, Malcolmxy said:
He's 14 years old, what'dya want? Lock him away for life? Execution? At least he kept it in the family. (on many levels, his want and ability to kill was her fault, after all...after reading the link you posted, I'm fully convinced mommy touched little Danny in places where mommies shouldn't be touching in that way. Psychopaths aren't born, they're bred...let's just hope your correction system can breed what his mommy put in him, out of him...

I think if he's fixed in a year, they should let him out in a year. He's a kid...kids aren't bad...something makes them that way, and it's almost always a family member.)



That is a very interesting point of view. We don't have the death penalty here, Malcom.
I am inclined to think it was very stupid of his mother to allow him to watch so much violent stuff on TV, ie: videos and games.
You may remember the two young kids aged 8 who murdered a toddler, Jamie Bulger in a horrific manner. They were let out after 8 years.
One was prosecuted for having child ... on his computer.
There have been other incidences of horrific acts of violence by children under 10.
I am not entirely convinced kids are turned into psychopaths by their parents. Surely genetics can play a part? Birth injury?
I have a son who suffered a serious head injury. His whole personality changed. He was a jolly friendly person always laughing, he changed into an aggressive bad tempered person. It took years to get him through that. Then 14 years later he had another accident, this time far more serious. His personality went back to being very angry and aggressive. He also lost his right leg above the knee. When he recovered enough, he went travelling in his wheelchair, all over the world. (his pelvis was damaged so much he cannot have a false leg.)
11 years on, he has recovered much of his original personality.
My point is that surely some people become aggressive or psychopathic for reasons other than bad parenting?

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Malcolmxy
Independents
4/7/2012 10:20:53 PM


Status: Attorney General

On 4/7/2012 6:41:36 PM, AzureSky said:

On 4/7/2012 4:22:16 PM, Malcolmxy said:
He's 14 years old, what'dya want? Lock him away for life? Execution? At least he kept it in the family. (on many levels, his want and ability to kill was her fault, after all...after reading the link you posted, I'm fully convinced mommy touched little Danny in places where mommies shouldn't be touching in that way. Psychopaths aren't born, they're bred...let's just hope your correction system can breed what his mommy put in him, out of him...

I think if he's fixed in a year, they should let him out in a year. He's a kid...kids aren't bad...something makes them that way, and it's almost always a family member.)



That is a very interesting point of view. We don't have the death penalty here, Malcom.
I am inclined to think it was very stupid of his mother to allow him to watch so much violent stuff on TV, ie: videos and games.
You may remember the two young kids aged 8 who murdered a toddler, Jamie Bulger in a horrific manner. They were let out after 8 years.
One was prosecuted for having child ... on his computer.
There have been other incidences of horrific acts of violence by children under 10.
I am not entirely convinced kids are turned into psychopaths by their parents. Surely genetics can play a part? Birth injury?
I have a son who suffered a serious head injury. His whole personality changed. He was a jolly friendly person always laughing, he changed into an aggressive bad tempered person. It took years to get him through that. Then 14 years later he had another accident, this time far more serious. His personality went back to being very angry and aggressive. He also lost his right leg above the knee. When he recovered enough, he went travelling in his wheelchair, all over the world. (his pelvis was damaged so much he cannot have a false leg.)
11 years on, he has recovered much of his original personality.
My point is that surely some people become aggressive or psychopathic for reasons other than bad parenting?



Yes, traumatic brain injury can change a person dramatically, and birth defects centered around the brain can lead to behaviors that no one can predict, but these things are rare (sorry about your kid, by the way...that sucks...I imagine this is what wives of returning war soldiers face upon their husbands' return).

Most killers are created, if not by their parents than by some other authority figure or family member.

Read the article you linked to again and look at all the things he was doing and the ways he was focusing the violence - all toward women in power, and specifically toward the ultimate female authority in the story. For a kid that age, that means mom.

Read further, and I think it's because she ... ually abused him.

It sucks when you can't point to the monster and have them hold all the blame, but sometimes Dr, Frankenstein is the real villain.
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AzureSky
Independents
4/8/2012 11:40:55 AM


Status: Commander in Chief
update on Daniel child murderer

I spoke to someone who works in Mental Health and she said it is a clear case of paranoid schizophrenia. It was missed by the so called experts, but maybe they were not given all the facts.
This awful illness can start in the teens.

He will be closely monitored in the place he is sent to. If he still has signs of schizophrenia, he will be sent to a home for forensic patients. It is unlikely he will be released into the community. He will need treatment for the rest of his life.
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Malcolmxy
Independents
4/8/2012 12:44:50 PM


Status: Attorney General

On 4/8/2012 11:40:55 AM, AzureSky said:
update on Daniel child murderer

I spoke to someone who works in Mental Health and she said it is a clear case of paranoid schizophrenia. It was missed by the so called experts, but maybe they were not given all the facts.
This awful illness can start in the teens.

He will be closely monitored in the place he is sent to. If he still has signs of schizophrenia, he will be sent to a home for forensic patients. It is unlikely he will be released into the community. He will need treatment for the rest of his life.



My father was schizophrenic, and paranoid schizophrenia with acted out violent ideations is rare, and it almost never onsets pre-19/20 years old.

Now, I'm not a true expert on the subject, and your friend may be completely correct in this matter, but I'd have them look again (especially given the boy's age...schizophrenia almost always onsets post-adulthood...it's a weird-ss disease).

Either way, the kid had some sort of mental break...whether it was disease driven or driven into him. I hope they can "fix" him as much as possible...either way, I hardly blame this child for what happened.
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AzureSky
Independents
4/8/2012 9:41:49 PM


Status: Commander in Chief

On 4/8/2012 12:44:50 PM, Malcolmxy said:

On 4/8/2012 11:40:55 AM, AzureSky said:
update on Daniel child murderer

I spoke to someone who works in Mental Health and she said it is a clear case of paranoid schizophrenia. It was missed by the so called experts, but maybe they were not given all the facts.
This awful illness can start in the teens.

He will be closely monitored in the place he is sent to. If he still has signs of schizophrenia, he will be sent to a home for forensic patients. It is unlikely he will be released into the community. He will need treatment for the rest of his life.




My father was schizophrenic, and paranoid schizophrenia with acted out violent ideations is rare, and it almost never onsets pre-19/20 years old.

Now, I'm not a true expert on the subject, and your friend may be completely correct in this matter, but I'd have them look again (especially given the boy's age...schizophrenia almost always onsets post-adulthood...it's a weird-ss disease).

Either way, the kid had some sort of mental break...whether it was disease driven or driven into him. I hope they can "fix" him as much as possible...either way, I hardly blame this child for what happened.



My friend works in a Mental Health Facility where there is a one to one staff patient ratio for severe cases, never more than one to three. She deals mainly with schizophrenics because she is very experienced and has studied them in depth.

She says schizophrenia can manifest as young as 14, but it tends to be put down to difficult teenage behaviour. When they start acting out their fantasies, become obsessed about things, and being violent, then somebody takes notice.

It might not be easy to diagnose initially, as the person may not tell the doctor what is bothering him/her. He/she may just have weird ideas and become obsessed with outer space and extra terrestrials for instance.

I do know many people with this illness would not hurt a fly. They might live in an unconventional manner and not fit into society, but if they are happy in their own little world, that is fine.

It is also possible for them to hold down jobs in some cases. Much depends on whether the illness only appears when they are stressed, or if it is a continuous. Not all of them hear voices either. There is so much stigma attached to the illness.

Definitely, the boy who murdered is mother had it but it was not recognised. I think it got so bad because he was indulged and spoiled so much from an early age and had no boundaries. So bad parenting did play a part in the boy's behaviour.





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