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Malcolmxy
Independents
4/1/2012 8:48:59 AM


Status: Attorney General

On 4/1/2012 4:14:41 AM, AzureSky said:


Yes the Yanks did come over in World War 1 and World War 2. Not sure why in WW1




Same reason everyone got sucked in after a meaningless political figure got assassinated - treaties.

We basically promised we would beforehand, and we stupidly (just like everyone else) honored that promise. If everyone would have just stepped back and realized how stupid it all was, it could have been avoided.

Also, The First World War was fought at the same time as The American Revolutionary War (North America was merely one front in that war, just like Africa in what we call WWII, which was actually WWIII).

England won. They just had to give up the East Coast of The US to do it...they won everything else that war, though...conquered the world and everything. And, if they had decided to come back after they decimated the French, they would have re-taken their former colonies as well (thanks for not doing that, by the way).

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Malcolmxy
Independents
4/1/2012 4:23:52 PM


Status: Attorney General

On 3/31/2012 5:40:30 PM, Laredog said:
You will be fasinated by what you learn. And mostly what you will learn is man kills easily and often, for land, and money, but mostly for Power!
And in this evil.... not a one of us is innocent!





It's actually quite difficult for men to kill. Prior to Korea, the fire rate (not the hit rate, but the fire rate) when not actively under fire was about 15% (that's US troops...I don't know about other armies when it comes to that.).

But yeah...no matter what the stated public purpose of a war is, the real reason is control of resources, and that's power.

Thing is, it's not the "people" that yearn for the wars of conquest and booty (well, not most of them). It's the ssholes in charge who already have a metric sh!t ton of power...and it's never enough.

I subscribe to few cliches in my life, but the corrupting influence, and absolutely corrupting influence of absolute power is certainly the one that I have found always holds true.

And, unfortunately, just like with Rome, even when the government is supposed to be run by representatives of the people and power diffused, it always finds a way to concentrate itself and continue to feed itself until it becomes bloated and begins a new.

I just wish people had to foresight to see and stop it before that final stage, but we're on a 200 year repeating loop that I see no signs of us extracting ourselves from.

I don't believe in God, but I really wish people would read the Bible (or whatever holy book they prefer since they're mostly all the same). This has all happened before and has been well documented for centuries, and it's all there for people who want to see it...or, I suppose if Stryper is playing at your megachurch, that's more important.

(BARF)
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AzureSky
Independents
4/2/2012 9:38:50 AM


Status: Commander in Chief
Malcomxy:- The First World War was fought at the same time as The American Revolutionary War (North America was merely one front in that war, just like Africa in what we call WWII, which was actually WWIII).



The American Civil War happened earlier, it took place from 1861 and ended in 1865



It's actually quite difficult for men to kill.



That is very true, in WWI my Grsndad was part of a firing squad. A 16 year old boy was tied blindfolded to a kitchen chair and shot at dawn for cowardice in the face of the enemy.

Later it was revealed that not all the bullets were real due to shortage of ammunition. It affected Grandad deeply.

I read recently, training a man to kill is one of the hardest things to do. This must make returning to civvy street really hard.




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Malcolmxy
Independents
4/2/2012 7:42:53 PM


Status: Attorney General

On 4/2/2012 9:38:50 AM, AzureSky said:
Malcomxy:- The First World War was fought at the same time as The American Revolutionary War (North America was merely one front in that war, just like Africa in what we call WWII, which was actually WWIII).



The American Civil War happened earlier, it took place from 1861 and ended in 1865



It's actually quite difficult for men to kill.



That is very true...



Yes, and the American Revolutionary War happened even earlier than that (1770s). What I was saying was that was actually the First World War (it was the 1st war fought all around the globe) and it was primarily the French vs. Brits. Britain won, and conquered all of the world, sans the 13 colonies on the east coast of middle North America that eventually became The USA.

WWI is obviously a different war which all took place because Archduke Ferdinand was assassinated and all of the treaties between the various nations of the world meant that all of them ended up going to war as soon as the 1st two countries started lobbing bullets at one another.

All I was saying was that WWI was not the 1st world war. We just mistakenly call it that (which is fine...it was just trivial information because that is what I am good at).

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AzureSky
Independents
4/3/2012 4:42:22 AM


Status: Commander in Chief

On 4/2/2012 7:42:53 PM, Malcolmxy said:

On 4/2/2012 9:38:50 AM, AzureSky said:
Malcomxy:- The First World War was fought at the same time as The American Revolutionary War (North America was merely one front in that war, just like Africa in what we call WWII, which was actually WWIII).



The American Civil War happened earlier, it took place from 1861 and ended in 1865



It's actually quite difficult for men to kill.



That is very true...



Yes, and the American Revolutionary War happened even earlier than that (1770s). What I was saying was that was actually the First World War (it was the 1st war fought all around the globe) and it was primarily the French vs. Brits. Britain won, and conquered all of the world, sans the 13 colonies on the east coast of middle North America that eventually became The USA.

WWI is obviously a different war which all took place because Archduke Ferdinand was assassinated and all of the treaties between the various nations of the world meant that all of them ended up going to war as soon as the 1st two countries started lobbing bullets at one another.

All I was saying was that WWI was not the 1st world war. We just mistakenly call it that (which is fine...it was just trivial information because that is what I am good at).




Ah now I understand. I got the 1861-65 war between the North and South confused with the War of Independence in the late 18th Century.

George III was responsible for the Boston Tea Party. Ironically the decision went through on a quiet day in Parliament. Nobody realised the implications. This is an often repeated theme in History.

I think the South Sea Bubble is being repeated nowadays. It seems insane to me that History is not taught properly in many countries. The UK is terrible nowadays. With computers children are able to learn for themselves, but many are more interested in computer games.

As always, the countries who win Wars teach edited versions of History. The losers too. The Japanese are not taught about their role in WWII and the horrific atrocities they committed. I knew people personally who suffered in the prison camps.

This because many Army Regiments from East Anglia served in the Far East. My husband's uncle died in a camp, my stepfather suffered appallingly too. Many of my teachers were in camps and we would hear many tales about the horrors they endured.

The British have a bad record, they invented scalping and concentration camps. An ex SAS man told me our torture methods were/are the worst and didn't leave marks. The Spanish and Italians devised some fiendish instruments of torture.

We could go on for hours about the evil done by humans to each other, let alone to animals. I think the Holy Inquisition was just about the worst evil ever, and it was done in the name of Catholics.

Henry VIII was evil personified when he razed all the monasteries to the ground and killed as many Catholics as he could get hold of. His daughter, Bloody Mary killed Protestants, Elizabeth I went after Catholics.

No wonder the Tower of London is haunted.

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Malcolmxy
Independents
4/3/2012 5:52:16 AM


Status: Attorney General

On 4/3/2012 4:42:22 AM, AzureSky said:

We could go on for hours about the evil done by humans to each other, let alone to animals. I think the Holy Inquisition was just about the worst evil ever, and it was done in the name of Catholics.

Henry VIII was evil personified when he razed all the monasteries to the ground and killed as many Catholics as he could get hold of. His daughter, Bloody Mary killed Protestants, Elizabeth I went after Catholics.

No wonder the Tower of London is haunted.




Far as I can tell, Hank 8 (that's what I like to call him) was just a selfish prick. When the pope wasn't inclined to grant him his eleventy second divorce, he told him where to shove it and built his own church (your church, or your country's church...which, all things considered, ain't so bad, actually).

Monarchies and The Holy Roman Catholic Church (into which I was baptized and belonged until I renounced my faith) - you wanna trace the evil of men, you need look no further.

(Catholic people are wonderful...or, they are as wonderful as anyone else is, but the church is an abomination and should be burnt to the ground along with all the castles and other trappings of any monarchies...unfortunately, these days, I'm pretty sure that means including The White House...)

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AzureSky
Independents
4/5/2012 2:00:53 PM


Status: Commander in Chief
With regard to the British Monarchy, it has been modernised a great deal. The Queen now plays income tax voluntarily.

I think have a Head of State who is not beholden to any political party brings stability to a country.

Queen Elizabeth has served our country and the Commonwealth very well in the last 60 years.

While she does not have the power to directly influence the government, she does have unique experience and knowledge.

She has been Queen since Eisenhower was President. Our Prime Ministers see her every week to talk over their concerns and she is able to help them.

For what little the Monarchy costs, about 1 penny per person I think it is great value for money. They are able to help us
strengthen trading links.

In times of National Crisis, they visit the people affected straight away. They work tirelessly for charities, bringing much needed publicity.

The young Princes worked very hard to get their pilot's licences. Both did very well indeed. Prince Harry has established an orphanage in Africa.

Prince William supports the homeless charity Centre Point and visits them. He spent a night on the streets on a cold winter night to publicise the cause.

I am proud of our Royal Family. Especially our Queen who has dedicated her life to serve our country. I haven't met her but have spoken to people who have.

They say she is so pleasant and has a wonderful kind of air about her. I have seen her when she was young and she was breathtakingly beautiful.

The USA would definitely benefit from having a Monarchy in my opinion.





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Malcolmxy
Independents
4/7/2012 4:27:04 AM


Status: Attorney General

On 4/5/2012 2:00:53 PM, AzureSky said:


The USA would definitely benefit from having a Monarchy in my opinion.





The greatest form of government is the benevolent monarch. The only problem is - sometimes their children are spoiled ssholes who reign he!lfire down upon the world and create a sh!tstorm that takes generations to clean up.

I'm sure Liz II is a fine queen (though, were she alive and able to speak freely, I'm not sure the former princess Diana would be so kind in her words about Mrs. Windsor), but simply the word queen, unless it's in reference to a rock band, gives me the heebeebeegees.

For every good queen, there are 3 bad ones. Also, talk about your racism? Monarchs are consigned by God in their blood to rule (or, so the story goes). Yikes.

And, I don't know about the entire commonwealth, but it wouldn't take too much for Liz to be the supreme ruler of at least 13 of the 15 countries that make up that group...a little fear here, a crazy referendum there, and your monarchy is not so modern anymore and the queen can start having public beheadings...or, perhaps King Chuck would start those after mommy kicked it (or he killed her...what a great time it was when children offed their parents so that they could rule, eh?).

And, this isn't just The UK. Japan had a brutal monarchy, as did China, and Egypt, and Saudi Arabia still does...and, there are others...MANY OTHERS.

Good, bad or indifferent, I say put 'em all in a sealed bunker and throw away the key.

The moment The US adopts a monarchy is the moment I take up arms and start killing whoever was dumb enough to take the crown. (We had enough of your kings with the last George...and, enough of our presidents named George with the last one as well...something about George, I think...)

[Edited by User on 4/7/2012 11:01:23 AM]
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Malcolmxy
Independents
4/7/2012 10:59:10 AM


Status: Attorney General


On 4/5/2012 2:00:53 PM, AzureSky said:


The USA would definitely benefit from having a Monarchy in my opinion.





The USA would do well to move to a Parliamentary form of government, though, but our dmn Constitution is too hard to change (2/3 super majority vote is needed in both houses, and that's if someone is brave enough to propose an amendment. Our last one, the 27th, was simply our Congress voting for the ability to give themselves pay raises in the same term in which they serve...."do you want to give yourself more money?" Amendment passes...BS...I don't mind voting for the next Congress to get a pay raise...they need to keep 2 residences and travel a lot...they're actually kinda underpaid, but no one should be able to give themselves a pay raise...it's a recipe for abuse.).

Plus, it's not in the interest of either of the ruling political parties to move to a system like that, so it will never happen.
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Malcolmxy
Independents
4/7/2012 11:08:25 AM


Status: Attorney General

On 4/3/2012 4:42:22 AM, AzureSky said:

On 4/2/2012 7:42:53 PM, Malcolmxy said:

On 4/2/2012 9:38:50 AM, AzureSky said:
Malcomxy:- The First World War was fought at the same time as The American Revolutionary War (North America was merely one front in that war, just like Africa in what we call WWII, which was actually WWIII).



The American Civil War happened earlier, it took place from 1861 and ended in 1865



It's actually quite difficult for men to kill.



That is very true...



All I was saying was that WWI was not the 1st world war. We just mistakenly call it that (which is fine...it was just trivial information because that is what I am good at).





George III was responsible for the Boston Tea Party. Ironically the decision went through on a quiet day in Parliament. Nobody realised the implications. This is an often repeated theme in History.

The British have a bad record, they invented scalping and concentration camps. An ex SAS man told me our torture methods were/are the worst and didn't leave marks. The Spanish and Italians devised some fiendish instruments of torture.

No wonder the Tower of London is haunted.




The Boston Tea Party really wasn't nearly as big a deal as it has turned into over time. A few p!ssed off merchants who dumped their cargo (and probably turned that bit of water a nicer shade of brown than it was previously). It was a couple dudes who had a bit too much time to think about stuff (Madison, Jefferson and Franklin) who really made the moves to our independence. Ah, whatever...what's done is done.

You guys gave the world the Iron Maiden, and as much as I dislike torture, I am exceedingly glad that whoever came up with that little device, came up with it. Otherwise, what would Iron Maiden be called? The Rack? Lame!!!!
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Laredog
Independents
4/7/2012 8:51:59 PM


Status: Speech Writer
Glad I could help get you guys running on about this. History is SO important, and throughout the Middle Ages the world repeated stupid mistakes over and over again... laying the groundwork for today. Not alot has changed.
History is fascinating! If you don't like to read, and I really don't, get Librivox free readings of books online. I have then for my phone and listen to history every night as I fall off to sleep. I'm 56, and this is the first time I learned the truth about so many things... including why there are Protestants (Martin Luther's story) and many more facts that before I took for granted, but really did not know about!
Get your kids to study History. Makes you a better person.
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Malcolmxy
Independents
4/7/2012 10:08:14 PM


Status: Attorney General

On 4/7/2012 8:51:59 PM, Laredog said:

Get your kids to study History. Makes you a better person.



f'in a!!! unfortunately, I'm not sure it's actually that good to know the truth anymore. all it does is p!ss people off because it doesn't jive with their warped perception of reality.

and, the moment you question someone's long held beliefs and can actually lay out their mistakes, especially if those mistakes of perception start to creep into their moral code, they get so defensive that you might as well just forget what you know and just believe the lie.

That why I tell people, it don't matter what I believe. I'm in the minuscule minority. It's knowing what the majority thinks that matters.

Truth is overrated anyway. It doesn't get you laid and it don't pay the rent.



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Laredog
Independents
4/7/2012 11:42:22 PM


Status: Speech Writer

On 4/7/2012 10:08:14 PM, Malcolmxy said:

On 4/7/2012 8:51:59 PM, Laredog said:

Get your kids to study History. Makes you a better person.



f'in a!!! unfortunately, I'm not sure it's actually that good to know the truth anymore. all it does is p!ss people off because it doesn't jive with their warped perception of reality.

and, the moment you question someone's long held beliefs and can actually lay out their mistakes, especially if those mistakes of perception start to creep into their moral code, they get so defensive that you might as well just forget what you know and just believe the lie.

That why I tell people, it don't matter what I believe. I'm in the minuscule minority. It's knowing what the majority thinks that matters.

Truth is overrated anyway. It doesn't get you laid and it don't pay the rent.



[Edited by User on 4/7/2012 10:09:10 PM]



Lies get you 'laid' and pay your rent????? No. Learning to live with truth as your armor will always be more sucessful. It is lies that lose loves, jobs, and homes. AND only the lier himself, that believes what he says.
AND God has made it even harder for the lier... because in his heart he knows his life is a lie. Sad.
No, I'll continue to stand up for truth. You may just need to learn how to be a little more brave... because honesty isn't always the easiest way out.
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Malcolmxy
Independents
4/8/2012 12:46:33 AM


Status: Attorney General
No, charm gets me laid, and money pays the rent...or, is it the other way around? Well, I know one does one and one does the other, but I can't remember which now.

I find making fun of stuff works better than anything else. I don't have a problem knowing the facts of the matter, but boy do other people not like to hear it.

Tell people that Barack Obama renewed the Patriot Act and that Rand Paul was the only member of Congress to oppose it (hey, I'm not a huge fan of his supporters either, but he's been on my side of nearly every issue I think is important) and they freak out, blame Bush and call you a fascist.

I don't like the fact that I can't support the president I voted for and have to look to a guy who has supporters who curb stomp minorities either, but it's a mixed up crazy world out there, and the reverse blender is on the fritz.
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Laredog
Independents
4/9/2012 1:33:32 AM


Status: Speech Writer
All true. Escape through art... that's what I try to do.
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Malcolmxy
Independents
4/9/2012 4:04:38 AM


Status: Attorney General

On 4/9/2012 1:33:32 AM, Laredog said:
All true. Escape through art... that's what I try to do.



Me, too, except I'm not an artist (I'm a hobbyist and I like it, but I've seen artists, and I ain't one) and it's hard to bang someone over the head with an electronic photo...as hard as I try sometimes.
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AzureSky
Independents
4/9/2012 5:50:25 AM


Status: Commander in Chief

On 4/7/2012 8:51:59 PM, Laredog said:
Glad I could help get you guys running on about this. History is SO important, and throughout the Middle Ages the world repeated stupid mistakes over and over again... laying the groundwork for today. Not alot has changed.
History is fascinating! If you don't like to read, and I really don't, get Librivox free readings of books online. I have then for my phone and listen to history every night as I fall off to sleep. I'm 56, and this is the first time I learned the truth about so many things... including why there are Protestants (Martin Luther's story) and many more facts that before I took for granted, but really did not know about!
Get your kids to study History. Makes you a better person.



You are right Laredog, history does matter. Sadly it is not taught properly in schools these days. Thank goodness for the internet.

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