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Ganmerlad
9/7/2011 8:25:27 AM


Status: Flori-duh Voter
Apprentice Contests Votes and Critiques

I am brand new here but about the apprentice contests... Right now there is "Dog Stunt" up for a vote.

First off how do you vote for them? I mean, do you give them a higher score than you would if they were competing in an advanced contest or do you score them like you would everyone else? (being as they are typically still getting their photoshop skills, most images aren't great yet)

Secondly and most importantly, I noticed out of the 11 photos in the contest only one (well, sort of 2, if a frown face counts) had a critique before the contest ended. How are they going to learn and fix things if few are paying any attention to these contests? IE: Shouldn't there be a bit of a push to get the old hands to help the new choppers?

[Edited by 'Ganmerlad' on 9/7/2011 10:09:09 AM]
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NewsMaster
Independents
9/7/2011 4:06:55 PM


Status: Commander in Chief
Hey, Ganmerlad, welcome to the site!

Apprentice contests tend to have less comments because there are less people competing there, and typically most comments in any contest (advanced or apprentice) come from the members who entered the same contest and they critique the chops of the fellow members in the same contest. The dog stunt contest is still active as of this writing - it approaches the end of the contest just now as the voting period is ending. Many comments also come closer to the end of the contest or even shortly after the contest ends.

Just vote there using the same scale and judgement as if the images were in the advanced contest section.
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BOULPIX
Independents
9/7/2011 6:04:10 PM


Status: Secretary of Health & Human Services
If I can give my opinion. I think we learn a lot by observing others. In addition, many people are there just for fun. This is just my opinion.
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diamonds
Independents
9/8/2011 5:07:11 PM


Status: Political Science Professor
As a very new member I would love critiques of my work in the apprentice contests, especially when I seem to get many votes of 4 or less. If my pic or any other pic really is voted as being under a 5, I have often wondered if the voter should explain their meagre vote.

I am learning all the time, sometimes I get better, other times not, and would love constructive criticism.
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BOULPIX
Independents
9/8/2011 7:33:40 PM


Status: Secretary of Health & Human Services
I looked at your works. It's not so bad. With a little patience I think you'll get better. If I can make a suggestion, it would sometimes add some shadows and adjust lights when you import pictures. I'm not an expert but if you need advices, feel free to contact me on my personal box or do not hesitate to post your questions on the forum. Courage and patience, it takes a lot of time with photoshop. But when you understand it's great !
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diamonds
Independents
9/8/2011 8:32:45 PM


Status: Political Science Professor
Thanks Boulpix - I am enjoying the learning and playing Patience is something I know I have to learn also
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Independents
9/8/2011 9:19:15 PM


Status: Secretary of Health & Human Services
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Disasterman111
Democrats
9/9/2011 4:00:03 PM


Status: Commander in Chief
Back a few years ago when I was entering the apprentice contests I had a lot of veteran artists coaching me on how I could do things better and it was a great learning experience. Just like anything else in the world, the more you do something the better you will get at it!
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If it was easy anyone could do it!

BOULPIX
Independents
9/9/2011 7:49:39 PM


Status: Secretary of Health & Human Services
I agree with you. Because of my bad english, I realized that my comment could be interpreted differently from what I wanted to say. And I must admit I was a little irritated by some attitudes on the veteran contest but now I think everything is back to normal. I am also apprentice and have no lesson to give. I just want to have fun on the FN contests. Of course, I am not against constructive criticisms and help of one another.
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MiniS
Democrats
9/11/2011 4:53:10 AM


Status: Hall Monitor
As another relatively new Apprentice, I also really appreciate constructive criticism and helpful comments. Sometimes I can't achieve what I would like to do because I have very few tools to work with, but I am trying to learn and improve all the time.
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Ganmerlad
Democrats
9/12/2011 4:11:52 PM


Status: Flori-duh Voter
Just observing what others do doesn't tell you *how* to do something though. When you start out photoshopping, so much doesn't make sense. You know something is wrong but don't know how to fix it, or you don't realize something basic *should* be fixed unless someone tells you. Things like perspective, shadows, blending, blurring etc. I only brought it up because apprentice contests seems like the place advice would be REALLY helpful.

[Edited by User on 9/12/2011 4:19:20 PM]
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hillybill
Democrats
9/12/2011 4:57:43 PM


Status: Teacher's Pet
i will try and help out for now on. i have been doing this for years. and i still don't know how to do somethings! i learn new things every day. if you ever have any questions just ask me.
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Ganmerlad
Democrats
9/12/2011 5:24:40 PM


Status: Flori-duh Voter

On 9/12/2011 4:57:43 PM, hillybill said:
i will try and help out for now on. i have been doing this for years. and i still don't know how to do somethings! i learn new things every day. if you ever have any questions just ask me.



Thanks hillybill. There is a LOT I don't know how to do either, but I try to help others with what I *do* know how to do.
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Sunshine
Democrats
9/14/2011 6:44:50 AM


Status: Commander in Chief
Photoshop can't be learned in one day, it takes some time...best thing is to read tutorials and beginners should take it easy...make simple chops ...The first most important things are a good cutting and adjusting light and shadows but with patience everybody can became very good in time, my opinion.

[Edited by User on 9/14/2011 6:45:11 AM]
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Sunshine
Democrats
9/14/2011 7:04:47 AM


Status: Commander in Chief
Ganmerlad most of the times lights and shadow are bad done and that can ruin easy a good chop. Adjusting lights and shadows is the most hard thing to learn, for me really it took me some years to realize how they work lol don't laugh of me...but that don't mean it have to take years is good to have good teachers... here on FN if you will join more contests more you will learn...the variety of the themes contest it will put your imagination at work and doing lots of chops you can improve easy...you will learn from the instinct too...and with every chop is a chance to learn something new. Just my opinion

[Edited by User on 9/14/2011 10:04:47 AM]
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NewsMaster
Independents
9/14/2011 7:57:52 AM


Status: Commander in Chief

On 9/14/2011 7:04:47 AM, Sunshin3 said:
Ganmerlad most of the times lights and shadow are bad done and that can ruin easy a good chop and that is the most hard thing to learn, for me really it took me some years to realize how they work lol don't laugh of me...but that don't mean it have to take years is good to have good teachers... here on FN if you will join more contests more you will learn...the variety of the themes contest it will put your imagination at work and doing lots of chops you can improve easy...you will learn from the instinct too...and with every chop is a chance to learn something new. Just my opinion



Well said, Sun!
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Sunshine
Democrats
9/14/2011 8:11:42 AM


Status: Commander in Chief
Glad you are agree with me, Newsy
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diamonds
Independents
9/14/2011 4:52:05 PM


Status: Political Science Professor
Trouble with me is, I am still really only learning, and only use paint.net, while I try and decide whether I will ever be good enough - unfortunately Photoshop is so expensive and I guess PS Elements just won't cut it either

Sunshine3, you are just so right with your comment
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nepaguy59
Democrats
9/15/2011 5:27:18 AM


Status: Commander in Chief
Hello, everyone! I am relatively new to photo chopping also.I part-take in most of the contests on here,with a pretty good outcome! I enjoy, both levels.As far as the apprentice contests,I was wondering if it was possible to get some challenging pictures to work with! Since I've been a member,I would have to say about 85% of them have been beach related themes.It would be nice to have some thrown into the mix like the advanced contest ie....person/place or situation! Just a thought, would like to hear what you think!!!!

Thanks,
this is a great place.....HAPPY CHOPPING!!!!

[Edited by User on 9/15/2011 5:27:37 AM]
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NewsMaster
Independents
9/15/2011 5:53:11 AM


Status: Commander in Chief
Nepaguy, we know what you're saying
Will try to get more challenging stuff in the apprentice section too!
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hillybill
Democrats
9/15/2011 6:33:49 AM


Status: Teacher's Pet
diamonds most of the stuff i see here can be done with elements.
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